If you have any comments or answers to these questions, please email me at hauben@cs.columbia.edu Thanks! mail me Article 3140 of alt.amateur-comp: From: hauben@cs.columbia.edu (Michael Hauben) Subject: What is the Political Impact of the Net? Date: 4 Oct 1994 12:53:16 -0400 I am college senior working on a senior project/thesis. I am interested in what broad and wide reaching changes the Net has made possible. In a previous paper, "The Net and the Netizens", I surveyed and compiled the effect of the Net on people's personal and individual life. I am now looking into the broader effects of the Net on society as a whole. I would like to hear from people both how broad-reaching effects of the Net has affected their personal life and organizations they are involved in, and how it has affected others that you might know about. I am interested in hearing the role the Net has played in giving people more power over their lives than they had prior to their online access. It would be good to hear about changes around the world, such as the role the Net has played in relation to the changes in Eastern Europe and other parts of the World. (Such as the fall of the Berlin Wall, the failure of the Coup against Gorbachev, the chinese students pro-democracy movement). I am especially interested in any grass-roots movements which formed because of the Net. (e.g.: French Students use of Minitel to organize against university tuition raises.) I would like to hear of similar occurrences facilitated by the Net. This might belong in a second post, but I am also interested in hearing what peoples thoughts and theories about the potential future political and broad reaching impact of the Net might be. When I say "the Net", I am referring to much more than just the Internet. I am referring to all possible components of the global computer communications network, whether it be the Internet, all the Networks which comprise the Internet, FidoNet, Bitnet and other physical networks, Usenet and other logical networks, News/Netnews, mailing lists, other communications mediums (irc, talk, online communities, Mudd/mush/muck/moos, etc), other information storage and retrievial applications (gopher, ftp, WWW, Veronica, archie, WWWW & other web robots and spiders), and so on. I would also be interested in any references to theoretical texts which provide a useful founding from which to compare the Net. I am considering reading books by Paine, Rousseau and de Tocqeville. Either send me email at hauben@cs.columbia.edu, or reply publicly to this message. I will post my resulting paper to the Net in response to the help. thanks, -Michael Hauben Questions: I. What kind of political impact has the Net already had or is having? In terms of a. Broad Social Changes b. Greater availability of information c. Defeating coups and tearing down walls. d. other II. What kind of political impact might the Net help make possible in the future? Helpful notes from an article about connection of revolt in Eastern Europe with Information Technologies. "The Information Technologies and East European Societies" in _East European Politics and Societies_ by Gary L. Geiepl [TYPE IN REST] (394-438) Vol 5, No. 3 Fall '91 394 - "The perception of serious technological backwardness, and the desire to end it, lie at the heart of Eastern Europe's economic, political, and social upheaval...The computer and its related technologies have contributed most to the industrial world's rapid economic restructuring and have highlighted Eastern Europe's economic deficiencies most clearly." 406 - "[italicized: General Information Flow] The attitude of a government on the flow of information is of vital importance to the success of computing initiatives for at least three reasons. First, access to a wide variety of technical information, from international sources, is crucial to the development of the scientific and educational base necessary to support the widespread use of IT. Second, without guarantees of free expression and information flow, it is unlikely that the widespread popular use of computing will be encouraged, complicating efforts to automate planning and industry. Finally, leadership paranoia about the transmission of opposing ideas also may hinder widespread data communications, both within individual countries and with the outside world. East European officials responded in several different ways to these issues." 407 [MORE THIS PAGE TO TYPE in LATER] - "A direct correlation could be seen in Eastern Europe between a country's tolerance of dissent and the availability of computing for private use. In Hungary and Poland, the home use of PCs has been quite common, for some time, even for desktop publishing and data communications." 408 -"In Poland, PCs played an important role in Samizdat publication for several years, and are used by the Solidarity trade union to edit and print the most important of its weekly journals." http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~hauben/project_book.html -- | Michael Hauben CC '95 | E-mail me for sample copies of | | hauben@cs.columbia.edu | The Amateur Computerist Newsletter | | hauben@columbia.edu | & read the alt.amateur-comp newsgroup | Article 3312 of alt.amateur-comp: Subject: Seeking out info on Net.Contributions Date: 14 Nov 1994 01:36:45 -0500 In further defining my "question" and obtaining data for a senior independent study project, I have the following questions: I would like to hear how people make contributions to the public good of the Net. I have understood these contributors in a previous paper to be "Netizens", or Net Citizens (a net.citizen). Examples of contributions have been people who volunteer their time to write up FAQs, make code freely available which increase functionality or efficiency (B-News, C-News, Gopher, Lynx, Mosaic, etc etc), producing summaries of answers to Usenet posts, lists or indexes compiling real-life information or net information.These are just a few examples I can think of. I would like to hear of 1) Other examples, or occurrences of contributions that fit as contributions to the Whole of the Net (whether it be for Usenet, Internet, IRC, WWW, etc etc.) 2) What have you found to be especially valuable contributions? My basic criteria is looking for how people "give back to the Net," or nurture the net. I am not as interested in hearing how people produce something for the net for a profit. Inherently, what gets produced will be less useful when the prime concern is profit rather than the purpose. I am also more interested in the actual deed rather the the name of the person who did the deed. I am interested in people's cooperative building of the Net and its resources. I see this as the actual construction of what the Net is. This is how the Internet and Usenet, etc are different than Compuserve or AOL where the commercial provider "defines" what is available to their "subscribers." I am interested in hearing how Netizen's "define" the Net they use. I ask to better understand the affect we all have on the Net, and in turn on the rest of the world ("In Real Life"). I am also interested in hearing how people have contributed to the Net for the needs of the job, whether or not the benefit is immediately apparent. In addition to the actual contributions on the Net, I am interested in any recommendations people could make on theoretical references. I mean books or articles that would be valuable background in defining "the public good," or "public spaces." Lastly, I am also interested in how people's efforts online have made valuable contributions to the world off the Net and to those not connected to the Net. All contributions to the Net effectively help the rest of the world via helping those connecting to the Net, but I am also interested in how elements in our society which are not directly connected to the Net are affected. Please reply either publicly in followup, or email me at hauben@cs.columbia.edu. I will contribute my resulting paper to the Net. Some of my contributions to the Net are available at my WWW home page at http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/index.html thanks, -Michael -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Hauben Columbia College'95 Editor of Amateur Computerist Newsletter by day hauben@cs.columbia.edu by night Netizen's Cyberstop Subject: How has the Net benefitted science? Reply-To: hauben@cs.columbia.edu I am working on an independent study in college, and am interested in general on the affects of the Net (Usenet, Internet, mailing lists, and so on) on human society. In this particular post I am interested in hearing how the Net helps facilitate the field of science and science research. How does the Net facilitate scientific collaboration, progress, data gathering and sharing? I am intersted in these questions in both a specific fashion and in the general manner of how the Net affects society in a broad reaching fashion. I come to my questions after a visit to an open house of the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University. Scientists who lectured there spoke to some of the positive uses of the Net to facilitate the sharing of global geological data and cooperation by scientists around the world. I also come to these questions observant that the history of the Net (in particular ARPANET/Internet/NSFNET, and Usenet) has developed as ways of sharing data among scientific communities around the world. As such, I would be interested in hearing everyone's observations and ideas about what the Net is making possible that was less possible ten or more years ago. Please reply to me either publicly or privately at hauben@cs.columbia.edu Thank you, -Michael Hauben http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~hauben/project_book.html I am working on a senior thesis/project in college and I am interested in studying what if any broad effect the Net has on society as whole. One way of exploring this issue is in researching how if at all the increased amount of available information affects people's views and understandings of the world. And in turn if this easier accessible information leads to any change in the amount of participation an individual (and thus groups of individual in turn) contributes to the running of his or her life in particular and to the society as a whole in general. I am interested in this question from a multi-sided prespective: 1) Domestic US government use of Information Technologies (in particular the Net) to make information available to the American populace as a whole, 2) Any similar use of technologies to make information available in other countries' perspective populations on their governments, and 3) People's efforts to have their experiences and information be considered by governments via online public discussion or other forms. In addition to this general quest on how governments use the available technologies to make information available and how others try to make their views better known to government, I am interested in how people are using these new technologies to 1) Online attempts to influence governments, 2) Using Online to just plain 'get something done' themselves rather than attempting to influence the government to do it for them (and the rest of society.), or 3) The forming of grassroots movements either online or using online as a resource. In any case, I am interested in the following things: - References to WWW, gopher, ftp, and telnet sites and indexes of such sites related to governmental information or grassroots movements - Newsgroups and Mailing lists talking about these issues, or involved with the actual running and installation of such servers or services - Any personal anecdotes / stories / descriptions on attempts to organize online or distribute information, and details on successes *and* failures. - Any analysis of such attempts that have already been produced by those operating these servers or by other scholars studying the affects of information distribution or grassroots movements. - Whatever else you might feel would be interesting or worthwhile I will post my paper to Usenet after its completion, and will probably also make it available via ftp and/or WWW. Please respond publically and/or to me directly at hauben@cs.columbia.edu thank you, -Michael http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~hauben/project_book.html >Subject: Impact of the Net on Society >Date: 20 Feb 1995 21:53:30 -0500 >Reply-To: hauben@cs.columbia.edu I am working on a senior thesis about the Net* with Professor Brad Garton at Columbia University. I am particularly interested in the effect of the Net on society (i.e.: as opposed to the effect on a particular individual). One way to look at this is to look at similar occurances in the history of communication. I have found the history of the printing press to have significant parallels. Following are some points raised by Elizabeth Eisenstein in her book _The Printing Revolution in Early Modern Europe._ Cambridge University Press (Cambridge: 1993). I am interested in if anyone feels the Net has played a similarly significant effect on society, and how... Here are the quotes, and I would be interested in your comments and observations on them. (The quotes are taken from the context as part of the work I did on a previous paper. I will post my paper in a separate message from this inquiry.) 1. Differing ideas were for the first time set against one another. The theories of Arabists were set against the theories of Galenists and those of Aristotelians against Ptolemaists. Eisenstein writes Not only was confidence in old theories weakened, but an en- riched reading matter also encouraged the development of new intellectual combinations and permutations. Combinatory intellectual activity, as Arthur Koestler has suggested, inspires many creative acts. (p. 44) 2. The new availability of different theories or opinions about the same topics led Eisenstein to conclude that the contribution a scientist like Copernicus was able to make was not that he produced a new theory, but rather he was "confronting the next generation with a problem to be solved rather than a solution to be learned." (p. 223) 3. Part of the magic of the ability to mass produce copies of books cheaply, is that the author's words could be spread around the world. This proved to be powerful. Maurice Gravier commented on the power the press presented to the Protestant reformers: "The theses... were said to be known throughout German in a fortnight and throughout Europe in a month . . . Printing was recognized as a new power and publicity came into its own. In doing for Luther what copyists had done for Wycliffe, the printing press transformed the field of commu- nications and fathered an international revolt. It was a revolution. The advent of printing was an important precon- dition for the Protestant Reformation taken as a whole; for without it one could not implement "a priesthood of all believers." At the same time, however, the new medium also acted as a precipitant. It provided the "stroke of magic" by which an obscure theologian in Wittenberg managed to shake Saint Peter's throne." (p. 154) This idea is repeated by Daniel Defoe when he wrote "The preach- ing of sermons is speaking to a few of mankind, printing books is talking to the whole world." 4. Publishers requests for information led to people starting their own research and work. "Thus a knowledge explosion was set off." (p. 75), Eisenstein exclaims. 5. The German historian, Johann Sleidan, backs Eisenstein's observation by saying in his "Address to the Estates of the Empire" of 1542, "[The] art of printing [has] opened German eyes even as it is now bringing enlightenment to other countries. Each man became eager for knowledge, not without feeling a sense of amazement at his former blindness." (p. 150) Please respond to this message publically or privately to me at hauben@cs.columbia.edu. When I have finished my thesis, I will make it available to the on-line community. thank you, Michael Hauben * By the Net, I mean in its capacity to help people communicate with each other. Various parts of the Net help to facilitate this communication: Usenet Newsgroups, mailing lists, IRC sessions, talk sessions, Mudd/Moo/M**, WWW, and so on. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Hauben Columbia College'95 Editor of Amateur Computerist Newsletter by day hauben@cs.columbia.edu by night Netizen's Cyberstop >Subject: Does Usenet have an effect on the print news media? >Summary: Will this kill that? What, if any, effect do Usenet and mailing lists have on the print news media? I am undertaking a project looking into this question and have some of the following questions. If any of these interest you, please comment in the thread or via email. I would like to see a discussion started on these issues. 1) Has the press (i.e., the print news media) been influenced by the on-line critique of the press? 2) Have people on-line been helped through their active critique of the press? 3) Does this critique of the press strengthen Usenet in its role as a news media? 4) Is the print news media capable of being influenced? Is it capable of change? 5) Will this (Usenet) kill that (the print news media)? It is necesary to get a wide variety of responses to best figure out how to answer these questions, if they indeed can be answered. Has the Net influenced the accuracy of the coverage of the Internet and Usenet in the print news media? Has the coverage become less sloppy and less sensationalistic because of people's input and criticism of the print news media? Any comments or discussions about the above would be good. Here are also some quotes from two sources that I hope you will find valuable. First, some quotes from Christopher Lasch's article "Journalism, Publicity, and the Lost Art of Argument" in _Media Studies Journal_ Winter 1995 Vol 9 No 1. [All typeo's are mine!] pg 81 - What democracy requires is public debate, and not information. Of course, it needs information, too, but the kind of information it needs can be generated only by vigorous popular debate. We do not know what we need to know until we ask the right questions, and we can identify the right questions only by subjecting our own ideas about the world to the test of public controversy. . . . From these considerations it follows the job of the press is to encourage debate, not to supply the public with information. But as things now stand the press generates information in abundence, and nobody pays any attention. It is no secret that the public knows less about public affairs than it used to. . . . pg 89 - Instead of dismissing direct democracy as irrelevant to modern conditions, we need to recreate it on a large scale. And from this point of view, the press serves as the equivalent of the town meeting. . . . Increasingly, information is generated by those who wish to promote something or someone - a product, a cause, a political canidate or officeholder - without arguing their case on its merits or explicitly advertising it as self-interested material either. Much of the press, in its eagerness to inform the public, has become a conduit for the equivilent of junk mail. Like the post office - another institution that once served to extend the sphere of face-to-face discussion and to create "committees of correspondence" - it now delivers an abundance of useless, indigestible information that nobody wants, most of which ends up as unread waste. The most important effect of this obsession with information, aside from the destruction of trees and mounting burden of "waste management," is to undermine the authority of the word. When words are used merely as instruments of publicity or propaganda, they lose their power to pursuade. ----- The second selection is from Victor Hugo's _Notre Dame de Paris_, otherwise known as _The Hunchback of Notre Dame_. Someone on Usenet suggested that I read the section titled "This Will Kill That." That person did me a great service, as this section of the novel proved insightful for the research I am pursuing. Any comments or thoughts encouraged by these selections would be interesting to hear! :) 187 - "The archdeacon contemplated the gigantic cathedral for a time in silence, then he sighed and stretched out his right hand towards the printed book lying open on his table and his left hand towards Notre-Dame, and he looked sadly from the book to the church: 'Alas,' he said, 'this will kill that..' 'This will kill that. The book will kill the building.' 'As we see it, this thought had two facets. Firstly, it was the thought of a priest. It was the alarm felt by the priesthood before a new agent: the printing press. It was the terror and bewilderment felt by a man of the sanctuary before the luminous press of Gutenberg. [189] It was the pulpit and the manuscript, the spoken and the written word, taking fright at the the printed word; . . . It meant : the press will kill the church. This was the presentiment that as human ideas changed their form they would change their mode of expression, that the crucial idea of each generation would no longer be written in the same material or int he same way, that the book of stone, so solid and durable, would give way to the book of paper, which was more solid and durable still. Seen thus, the archdeacon's vague formula had a second meaning: it meant one art was going to dethrone another art. It meant: printing will kill architecture. 195 - If we now sum up what we have so far said all too hurriedly, omitting many proofs as well as many objections of detail, it amounts to this: that up until the fifteenth century architecture was the principal register of mankind, that during that period all ideas of any complexity which arose in the world became a building; every popular idea, just like every religious law, had its monuments; that the human race, in fact, inscribed in stone every one of its important thoughts. And why? Because every idea, be it religious or philosophical, is concerned to perpetuate itself, because the idea that has moved one generation wants to move others, and to leave some trace. But how precarious was the immortality of a manuscript! While a building is an altogether more solid, lasting and resistant book! It takes only a torch and a Turk to destroy the written word. To demolish the word of stone you need a social, terrestrial revolution. The barbarians passed over the Coliseum, the flood perhaps the Pyramids. 196 - In the fifteen century, everything changed. The human mind discovered a means of perpetuating itself which was not only more lasting and resistant than architecture, but also simpler and easier. Architecture was dethroned. The lead characters of Gutenberg succeeded the stone characters of Orpheus. *The book was to kill the building.* The invention of the printing-press is the greatest event in history. It was the mother of revolutions. It was the total renewal of man's mode of expression, the human mind sloughing of one form to put on another, a complete and definitive change of skin by that symbolic serpent which, ever since Adam, has represented the intelligence. 197 - Simultaneously with the arts, thought itself was everywhere being set free. The heresiarchs of the Middle Ages had already made great inroads into Catholicism. The sixteenth centery shattered religious unity. Prior to the press, the Reformation would have been only a schism, the press turned it into a revolution. Take away the press and heresy is enervated. Whether it was fate or Providence, Gutenberg was the precursor of Luther. 199 - What, meanwhile, had become of the printing-press? all the vitality which went from architecture came to the press. As architecture warned, the press waxed and grew fat. The capital sums of energy that the human mind had expended on buildings, it henceforth expended on books. And so, as early as the sixteenth century, the press, now the equal of a declining architecture, fought with it and killed it. In the seventeenth centery, it was already sufficiently dominant, sufficiently triumphant, sufficiently secure in its victory, to treat the world to the banquet of a great literary age. In the eighteenth centery, after its lengthy repose at the court of Louis XIV, it took up Luther's old sword once again, armed Voltaire with it, and ran in tumult to attack the old Europe, whose architectual expression it had already killed. When the eighteenth century came to an end, it had destroyed everything. In the nineteeth century, it was to rebuild. 200 - And in future, should architecture accidentally revive, it will no longer be master. It will be subject to the law of literature, which once received law from it. The respoective positions of the two arts will be reversed. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Hauben Columbia College'95 Editor of Amateur Computerist Newsletter by day hauben@cs.columbia.edu by night Netizen's Cyberstop -------------------------------------------------------------------